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| Author: | LarryH [ Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:04 pm ] |
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I did not get the single piece of purfling set deep enough when installing the rossette and have just begun sanding through the last of it as the picture shows. I can stop here and live with it, though it does need a little more finish sanding, or I can try and replace it which it seems will do more harm than good. It's personal guitar so that's not a concern Any suggestions? Larry 
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| Author: | Terry Stowell [ Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:10 pm ] |
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Todd Stock did a neat jig for just such a case. If he doesn't chime in, PM him, or search the archive under save rosette or rosette rescue I think. I'll look too. |
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| Author: | LarryH [ Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:27 pm ] |
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Thanks Terry, found the thread and of course had a feeling it would require just what I imagined with the router/dremel and am SOO nervous about ruining not only the rosette but the whole top which I have just bound. I wonder if there's a way to replace just the small portion that is affected? |
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| Author: | Terry Stowell [ Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:31 pm ] |
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Here's the link. Todd Stock's "Rosette Rescue" |
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| Author: | LarryH [ Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:35 pm ] |
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[QUOTE=Hesh1956] If the sound hole has not been cut out and you still have access to the pilot hole just reqout it out with and fine, sprial down-cut bit and replace.[/QUOTE] Thanks Hesh but unfortunately sound hole cut out, top and back on, top bound, ready to bind the bottom and begin finishing. The problem showed as I was prepping the top for binding. |
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| Author: | pharmboycu [ Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:14 pm ] |
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I gotta be honest-- to my untrained eyes and from a player's perspective, it doesn't look bad at all. Keep in mind that only the people playing it will get a look that close-- most others will be looking from 3 feet away or more. Even then, I bet 9 people out of 10 wouldn't notice it until you showed them. My opinion is that the little "imperfections," as that's what I guess this could be called, give instruments their character and uniqueness. I'd much rather have a handmade instrument from you than a perfectly computer carved Taylor. All my heros' guitars have scratches, bad neck resets, cracks, dings, rosettes hanging on by a thread. In the spirit of this discussion, I wonder what we would all think of the Mona Lisa if she had eyebrows-- or if we would even know she existed at all? |
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| Author: | LarryH [ Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:34 pm ] |
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[QUOTE=pharmboycu] I gotta be honest-- to my untrained eyes and from a player's perspective, it doesn't look bad at all. Keep in mind that only the people playing it will get a look that close-- most others will be looking from 3 feet away or more. Even then, I bet 9 people out of 10 wouldn't notice it until you showed them. My opinion is that the little "imperfections," as that's what I guess this could be called, give instruments their character and uniqueness. I'd much rather have a handmade instrument from you than a perfectly computer carved Taylor. All my heros' guitars have scratches, bad neck resets, cracks, dings, rosettes hanging on by a thread. In the spirit of this discussion, I wonder what we would all think of the Mona Lisa if she had eyebrows-- or if we would even know she existed at all? [/QUOTE] Yeah it really does take a VERY close look. You know that feeling though when you want things to come out JUST right and it knowing IT AIN"T GONNA HAPPEN. So discovering a pimple on my 'perfect' guitar is hard to take but you have added a great new perspective and I will probably live with it as is. Thanks for the feedback Larry |
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| Author: | LanceK [ Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:42 am ] |
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Ive seen Tony Ferguson "paint" in purfling lines on cases much worse than this. The before and after was mind boggling! He did such a good job you never would have guessed that was a repair there. |
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| Author: | LarryH [ Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:34 am ] |
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Todd, Lance, That's such great advice. I think I'll seal so I have decent surface to paint upon then get a fine brush and paint in those small missing pieces. After I find a magnifying glass. Thanks for the help Larry |
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| Author: | Chris Cordle [ Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:53 am ] |
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This thread couldn't have come at a better time! Feeling quite confident after ny first build I just did the same exact thing on build #2's rosette. I think I may try to touch them up before going the re- route method. My area in question is quite similar to yours in size. Are you thinking of shellacing first so the color doesn't run into the end grain? Watching with great interest-Chris |
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| Author: | Philip Perdue [ Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:53 am ] |
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It doesn’t look too bad just a little annoyance. Take a look at it again after you put a seal coat on. Maybe it won’t look as bad as you think. On my first instrument I had a problem when I sanded way to thin in one area and you could actually start to see the brace end. It was like a search light the way it got your attention. Only to find out that no one else seemed to notice or be bothered by it only me. Now I don’t notice it either. The rosette does look nice. Best of Luck. Philip |
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| Author: | LarryH [ Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:58 pm ] |
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[QUOTE=uncleshish] This thread couldn't have come at a better time! Feeling quite confident after ny first build I just did the same exact thing on build #2's rosette. I think I may try to touch them up before going the re- route method. My area in question is quite similar to yours in size. Are you thinking of shellacing first so the color doesn't run into the end grain? Watching with great interest-Chris[/QUOTE] Chris after reading some of the advice above I will probably seal the whole top with epoxy making sure it is nice and thin in the area of the rosette to - like you suggest - seal the end grain of the redwood. Then I'll try and paint a little white line over the missing purf and epoxy seal coat. There's a decent chance it will look worse than it does now so I'll be ready to bail out and leave it alone and look at the rest of the guitar instead of that little pimple. |
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